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bgardiner2000 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@adele375 unfortunately it's not comparing apples with apples. But make no mistake about it. Your grand-kids will talk about Black Caviar the way we talk about Phar Lap.
adele375 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@DarcyLovesPokey : Your comment i could not agree with more ! . If you go to Black Caviar page on facebook racing victoria is asking is Black Caviar better then Phar Lap , Phar lap is winning as he should be but not by much . i'm really quite disgusted that question could be ask , Racing Victoria really should be ashamed its so disrespetful to a horse who save a nation , i hate the question ! PHAR LAP ALL THE WAY <3 he will always be my favourite aswell! :-)
bgardiner2000 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@711ATOM Yes he certainly looks to have a Melbourne Cup-type background. I think that's secondary though for horses who will undergo such a huge change in environment. It'll be interesting to see how he goes. I see they've spaced his runs to about 4 weeks in the past. He'll not get that with the great Bart Cummings. BC has a theory that a horse needs 10000 meters of racing in his legs to get him ready for a Melbourne Cup. And he would know, he's won 12 of them!
711ATOM (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
The change didn't bother him, clean run, 2:39.40, track record but the Polytrack there is pretty new. Partmanners2 has the race posted watch?v=uZ10UDcwwqY. Maybe not in the class of little sister Danedream, but definitely a 1-1/2 mile+ horse. Sycamore & Hollywood taken together suggests improving form. Set for Gr2 San Marcos Stakes (10f Feb.11), Gr2 San Luis Rey Stakes (12f Mar.18), then Gr2 San Juan Capistrano Handicap(14f Apr.22) all at Santa Anita. Looks like a Mel. Cup type.
711ATOM (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@bgardiner2000 Not a whole lot but I'll give it a try. By Lomitas; formerly owned by Andreas Jacobs (serious money). Sent to the US and given over the Graham Motion (very good trainer - Animal Kingdom). 4 of 5 in Germany but had lots of problems (wouldn't run straight). Improved a lot with Mr. Motion. The race when Sanagas seemed to get it was the Gr.3 Sycamore St., Oct. 20, 2011 at Keeneland. Scheduled 1-1/2 miles, it was rained of the grass and run on Polytrack at 1-5/8. conti.
bgardiner2000 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@711ATOM What do you know about Sanagas, the Holywood Turf Cup winner? He is to be sent to Australia to be trained by Bart Cummings for a tilt at the Melbourne Cup.
bgardiner2000 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@711ATOM The Hunter Cup, which is also run on the same night as the Trotters Interdominion Final and the Victoria Derby is run at the Melton track in Victoria. I am all the way on the other side of the country in Perth ;) About 3000 miles away.
bgardiner2000 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@711ATOM I only have 1 comment I guess and then I want to drop it... I think there are far more interesting things you & I could talk about. Do you think that a horse over any distance has an advantage if given a run up versus a horse that does not? If we were athletes of similar ability & I started with a run up would I be more likely to win? A la it gives me an unfair advantage.
711ATOM (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@bgardiner2000 Of the subject again, I'm not really a harness guy but I understand you just had a big meet there (Hunter Cup?) did you get to go? |
